Tuesday, September 27, 2016

[Mod] "Authority is not given to you to deny the return of the king, steward," or "Who moved my Weekly What's Happening thread?"

Heya everyone!

It's come up several times that I've seen since r/SeattleWA has revved up (we're nearly to 10,000 users! Holy shit!), and someone just asked me directly, and it's the fourth or fifth time I've seen the question in the past few days:

"Will r/SeattleWA have a 'Weekly What's Happening' thread like /u/Careless did in the other place?"

We've talked about it several times and chewed it over from several angles. There's a couple of catch-22s in it. Or maybe not catch-22s, but issues. In no order, top of my head:

  1. The Weekly What's Happening thread, As It Was Before, left a bad taste in many mouths for a variety of reasons. Part of it was the "enforced narrative" that the old subreddit was artificially forced into by one person. Part of it was that it made it hard to have traditional, classical Reddit-style discussions about things. It vastly limited the ability to cross post: who wants to share a meta aggregate thread? You want to share the thread about the thing. And so on. None of us are keen to go back to that old well right now. It was a child of the infamous Rule #6 which annoyed many people for many various and sundry reasons. We're in no rush to recreate the wheel, or stop the wheel. We're right now in a different mode operationally (WARNING: Game of Thrones Season 6 spoilers).

  2. We're limited to two (2) sticky threads right now in all subreddits, in "slot 1" and "slot 2". Right now we're keeping the Weekly/Daily discussion threads in our sidebar that I began, which are going to rotate each day, in "slot 2". That leaves "slot 1" for periodic rotating sticky announcement threads (here is the current one in "slot 1"). There's no real free space for it, and mechanically for it to have value it needs the top spot 24x7. Otherwise, the thread would just drop off the front page in a day or less.

  3. Realistically, without a "slot 3" for stickies, it's probably not coming back As It Was Before. As far as I know Reddit is not doing this anytime soon. If we had "slot 3", we honestly would probably try to do a different rotating weekly thread or two or more, or special one-off things that are more fun and interesting if possible, and geared toward whatever you -- the community wants in that slot. It's not our slot anyway. It's yours. If you guys decided instead and have a big outcry for the Weekly What's Happening? Guess what: it'll come back. You decide together.

  4. Right now people want to post cool stuff as normal posts and within a day of our independence day from r/Seattle we don't want to start doing anything like we just came from, in general, in telling people what to post. That would defeat the whole purpose of what r/SeattleWA is!

  5. Before all this began, I spoke several times with the mod teams of various "city" subreddits. I straight up asked them in part of this: how many spammy, promotional, "come to my event!!" type posts do you get? Recall that this concern was the main reason for "Rule #6"! The answer was that it was so infrequent for them to not care, and they simply removed it or let users downvote into the trash. Based on that, the thinking is we will let our users take care of things whenever possible. If that has to change -- that change will come from you guys. Why?

  6. We as mods are janitors and stewards compared to the kings and queen: the users. YOU. Y'all decide what you see, as much as possible and when possible.

tl;dr:

Users are kings/queens, mods are stewards, garbagemen, housekeepers, and community organizers. Depends on the day.

Graphical representation in this Youtube:

"Authority is not given to you to deny the return of the king, steward."



Submitted September 27, 2016 at 08:31PM by AmericanDerp http://ift.tt/2diTrHo

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